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By Banks C. Talley III, IDSA

            On a recent trip to San Francisco, my wife and I met an animator from Pixar Studios through mutual friends. As we sat down for a Vietnamese meal at a local eatery, I was struck almost immediately by the simple fact that Matt and his wife didn’t give me the usual quizzical look that I get when I tell people what I do to earn a living. “You’re an Assistant Professor of what? Industrial Design? What is that exactly? Do you design factories and other industrial complexes? It’s like engineering right? So, where did you go to school for your engineering degree? Gee Banks, that’s really fascinating!” At this point, the conversation usually turns to some other topic or to some other individual at the table (who majored in something much less confusing like business, math, communications, psychology, etc.) and I am left verbally fumbling around; trying in vain to better explain my chosen profession. Well, Matt and his wife didn’t think that my profession or I were strange at all. “My sister is an Industrial Design major at RISD!” came the reply when I described my current job. We then launched into a long rambling conversation about IPods, Nokia cell phones, Adobe Photoshop, 3D Studio Max, the Volkswagen Bug versus the PT Cruiser, Marcel Wanders, Philippe Starck and Eileen Gray’s furniture. It was truly a dream conversation for a “dyed-in-the-wool” ID geek. It was also quite refreshing compared to the responses I normally get in my home state of North Carolina. In my opinion, Industrial Design is suffering from an identity crisis.

 
           My sudden inclusion and recognition as a member of the professional, creative class made me feel good momentarily, but it also caused me to ponder the larger issue at hand with furrowed brow. Why do so many people not know what Industrial Design is in my home state (or in the rest of the country for that matter)? Do they just not care? Are Californians (as it has long been reported) really just hipper and more knowledgeable about design? Are they truly the arbiters of style? Is everyone in my beloved home state actually provincial (me included)? Is design less prevalent in the South? Are Southerners somehow denied privileges and access to good design (unlike our fashion forward neighbors in New York)? Why is it that the Industrial Design program at North Carolina State University (my alma mater) is in its 51st year and yet when I meet someone at the Harris Teeter (a mere two blocks from the NCSU College of Design) I still get the typical quizzical response when asked about my major in college? “Industrial Design? That’s like engineering right? Oh yes, N.C. State has engineering, you must be an engineer.” Do I need to move to another state, preferably one that is more design literate, just to feel comfortable? Why does it bother me that so many people don’t understand what ID is? Lastly, what the heck can I do about it?


 
           Of course, I realize that there are no easy answers to my questions. It seems fair to say that we do take most of the “everyday objects” that make our lives easier for granted, but what of the people who design these objects?  Industrial Designers are now part of a global workforce and if the number of collegiate Industrial Design programs is any indicator, our numbers keep growing. Maybe an answer can be revealed through history.  Perhaps we have become so removed from the Industrial Revolution historically that people have simply forgotten that there was a time when mass production didn’t exist. Conversely, when I tell some people that I teach Product Design they seem to understand exactly what I am talking about. “Oh Product Design, you mean like IPods and cars?” While I always seek to pay my respects to the godfathers, Raymond Loewy and Henry Dreyfuss, maybe it is time to revise our name and embrace the future. In our technologically advanced society, is our name (with its historical reference) holding us back? I want everyone to know who we are, what we do and that we are a force to be reckoned with. I mean, we all own and use copious amounts of products. Should we all be called Product Designers? Does this name encompass all that we actually do? Are we showing a blatant lack of respect for the past by not acknowledging it by name?  These are questions that I will continue to ponder and I will consult my ID colleagues for further answers.

 
This is Part I of a two part article.

     

Banks C. Talley III, IDSA received all of his degrees from North Carolina State University in Raleigh, North Carolina. In 1992, he received his Bachelor of Arts in English/Technical Writing, from 1992-1994 he pursued graduate work in Graphic Design and worked as a freelance graphic designer, in 1996 he received a Bachelor of Environmental Design from the School of Design with a concentration in Industrial Design and Art & Design and in 2002 he received his Master of Industrial Design from the newly renamed College of Design. From 1996-1998, he served as the Lighting Designer at the North Carolina Museum of Art in Raleigh, NC. In 1998, Talley moved to Washington, DC to work for Design & Production, Inc. an exhibit design and fabrication firm based in Lorton, Virginia. From 2000-2001, Talley worked for D/G Washington (formerly Douglas/Gallagher) a private downtown-based and full-service exhibit design firm. In 2002, Talley served as the Director/Program Coordinator of the NCSU College of Design’s Design Camp program. In 2003, Talley served as a Development Associate for the Wake County chapter of Habitat for Humanity. Since 2004, Talley has been an Assistant Professor of Industrial Design at Appalachian State University in Boone, NC


 


Comments

John Shell

Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:04:14

When the conversation requires a one-sentence explanation of industrial design, I have a stock line: "it's like architecture, but instead of buildings, I design things made in factories." I know it is demeaning, but most people get the drift.

I dislike refering to the results of my labor as "everyday things." I prefer to think of them as extrordinary! Besides, the things I design (industrial icemakers) are not mass produced, though they do need to be functional, servicable, operationally transparent, understandable to owners, operators and service technicians - and hopefully cool enough that the customer will be proud to own it and the operator will be happy to run it. So, what do you do?

Another distinction I make for the uninitiated is that industrial designers design the products of industry rather than the processes. Designing the processes would be industrial engineering. You can see where the confusion starts to creep in. So yes, the profession would do itself a favor by calling itself product design. We would be employing one of our own most cherished design priciples - functional trasparency. We could have a name that is self-explanatory instead of arcane. How refreshing!

Still, I am hesitant to rush into change. I mean, if we are honest, don't we really enjoy all those clueless expressions?

 

Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:25:10

John:
Thank you for the response! It is nice to know someone out there is reading and that you care enough to write your own critique.

Thanks again,
Banks

 

Chris

Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:25:25

I have to agree it's hard to explain to people what we do, and when you try to break it down for people a little more they go right back to the begining and say "So your some sort of engineer, right?"
Depending on my mood at the time dictates if I'll keep trying to explain it any further.

I did find one thing usually works though. When ever I'm talking to someone who seems to be having a bit of difficult understanding what I do, I find the closest, coolest thing I can, and say, "See, Designer put the sex to that" That usually gets the point across.
-C

 

ryan

Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:23:11

Banks,

I for one am ready for a change in title. If we applied the same scrutiny and level of refinement to our title as the products we create, I guarantee you that the term would not be industrial designer. To further illustrate a point (slightly overdramatically) we call an appliance that automatically washes dishes, a dishwasher. Conceivably we could refer to it as a saucer sluicer. While saucer sluicer is technically correct, any designer would shoot this down in a second because the term is simply archaic and obscure. Industrial designers have been forced since existence to educate those about the inherent need for designers and the valuable role they play in a modern society. Therefore, it is pertinent that we remove the needless obstacles that hinder this cause. Starting off the bat with an obscure title only muddles the issue and adds complexity where there need not be. We need to hold ourselves, our profession, our design organizations, and our title, to the same high standards that that we bestow on everyday items.

-ryan

 

Thu, 16 Apr 2009 07:26:48

Industrial light fixtures have been de rigeur in the kitchen since stainless took over as the metal of choice. The oversized pendant lights on the left evoke 30s/40s elegance in a thoroughly modern kitchen, while the (tiny picture of the) green wall-mounted beasties on the right from Desire to Inspire’s fab site are a little more turn of the 20th century.

 

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Billy

Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:36:28

Banks,

I have to agree with you as well and finally do understand the need for a new title for the industrial designer or a new way to allow individuals to understand what we do or what we are capable of doing. Chris is correct when making the observation to an individual about what industrial designers do by making a product sexy. I feel it is the industrial designer to make the product appealing and needed to the consumer. There is a fine line between and individual wanting something and an indiviual needing something. An industrial designer makes that line disappear and makes the product a necessity by designing every possible angle of the product from the way it is used to the way it is stored and even the way it should be sold and produced. I do think it is time for a change and time to get the rest of the world just not the south up to speed on industrial deigners, with out us there would be no beautiful, sexy and creative products.

Billy webb,
Your friend and colleage

 



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